Intro Post w/ Questions

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Hi everyone! I'm new to the Nick/Greg fandom, but I've been watching CSI and giggling like mad over Greg for about six months (which probably still makes me new compared to a lot of people...). I started watching because my roommate would watch them while I was on the computer, and I got sucked into it. Hard. I have yet to see all the episodes, and I didn't watch the fifth season (night classes and a VCR with The Thomas Crown Affair stuck in it).

So, I have some questions, because I'm attempting to write a story, and I'm not even sure it would work.

1) Nick being molested by the babysitter. Is this cannon, or just generally accepted in this section of the fandom?

2) Greg was a brunette at the beginning of the series, wasn't he? Or could we call him some version of dirty blond? The pictures make it look like he's got all-over brown hair, but I don't know.

3) Is there any set time that Greg started working at the lab? Any lines like, "You've been here for such-and-such years"?

I'm also looking for a beta, and I'm willing to exchange beta services if needed. I'm a very good beta; if I don't know something, my mother will.

Any help would be appreciated.

Comments

[subluxate]

I'll volunteer for beta services.

1) I'm pretty sure it's canon, but not certain.

2) I believe he was brunette, yes.

3) None that I'm aware of. However, he'd have to have a degree, so he would have graduated college around 22. If he got hired right away, and he's, say, thirty now, you can guess eight years at the lab.

[pknight.livejournal.com]

That makes sense. But I've read his bio at different sites, and they said he worked in SFPD labs for a while, but theories differ as to whether that was an internship-type thing while he finished school, or if it was a formal job post-school.

Yay! A victim beta! So, once I get a rough draft, should I just e-mail it to you, or what?

[tzi.livejournal.com]

It's also canon that he spent some time in New York ^_~ I've always figured he probably slipped in a Masters or just had a damn good time for a year or two. ^_^

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Really? That helps a little... Know when he spent some time in NY? Between SF and LV (oy with the abbreviations...), or took some time off from LV?

[tzi.livejournal.com]

They don't mention that specifically, as it's a pretty tiny reference. Lik I said, I've always just slipped it between SF and LF =D It's in "Burked", ep 1 of Season 2... Following transcript excerpt courtesy of crimelab.nl and located here (http://www.crimelab.nl/transcripts.php?series=1&season=2&episode=1).

GREG: Did I ever tell you I used to live in New York?
GRISSOM: Is this going to be a short story or a novel?
(The mass spectrometer beeps and spews out the test results.)
GREG: Excuse me. You know, heroin has a nine-minute half-life. After that, it metabolizes into morphine.
GRISSOM: What's the 6-MAM count?
GREG: A hundred fifty-eight (158) nanograms per mil. Definitely not lethal. The same with your Xanax. Quarter-mil tabs, hundred (100) micrograms per liter. Again, not lethal. There's addicts walking around times square with more drugs in their system.
GRISSOM: So Braun should still be walking around.
(GRISSOM starts to leave the room, but stops as he passes GREG'S desk. He's just gotta ask ... )
GRISSOM: ... and the point of your New York story was ... ?
GREG: Oh, I was just going to tell you about another way to take heroin -- a suppository up the coolee. You just stand on your head, and then you let gravity ...
(Off GRISSOM'S strange look, GREG decides to ... )
GREG: ... forget it.
(GRISSOM leaves. Hold on GREG.)

[pknight.livejournal.com]

*dies laughing* Oh, I LOVE Greg. That's great.

[subluxate]

E-mail is great. Send it anytime =)

[bastian1967.livejournal.com]

#1) Nick being molested is Canon. Episode S2_03 - Overload

Can't help with the other 2 sorry

[pknight.livejournal.com]

*sings* One out of three ain't bad... */sings*

Thanks!

[gryvon.livejournal.com]

The babysitter thing's cannon.

No idea what Greg's official hair color is but I've always gone with dirty blonde. You could check some Eric Smazda fan sites and see what the real color is.

Also no idea on when Greg started working. He was firmly entrenced during the pilot episode so he's been there longer than Sara.

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Much obliged!

[mellacious.livejournal.com]

A picture of Greg from the pilot. You decide: is he brunette or dirty blonde? (http://beyond-imagination.org/csicaps/displayimage.php?album=20&pos=95")

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Hee. I've been looking at pictures of Eric/Greg all day, and I still couldn't decide. But I think I know what I'm going to do anyway... Thanks!

[fred-bear.livejournal.com]

He's certainly hot! I must admit, I love the darker hair!

[starry-midnight.livejournal.com]

1. This is definitely canon. It's mentioned in season two in the episode, Overload. I couldn't find a clip of it, but if you visit this site and request the clip I'm sure it'll be posted. Just ask for the scene where Nick tells Catherine about the babysitter, or something along those lines. http://omaetoy.net/

2. His hair changes so much it's really hard to tell. I would be willing to be he's a brunette or a really really dark/dirty blonde. Like I said, each season it's different. Though at one point he was completely brunette. His hair color is something you could take liberties with, within reason, I think, and no one would notice.

3. Sorry, I have no clue.

Hope any of that helped. :)

[pknight.livejournal.com]

1. Thank you!

2. Yay! I was hoping I could. I love taking liberties with Greg! ~_^

[starry-midnight.livejournal.com]

Here's a site, devoted solely to his hair. :D
http://www.angelfire.com/folk/emony/ersz/main.html

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Oooh! Thank you!

[slynn6776.livejournal.com]

Since #1 and #2 have been answered, I've seen two theories on Greg's employment at the Las Vegas lab.

1) that during college he had interned two semesters in San Fran and started working in Vegas after he graduated (I believe this is from the sadly unreliable CBS website which says he also went to Berkerly instead of Stanford which he says on the show)

and

2) that he worked a year in the San Fran crime lab after college before taking the job in Vegas (I think this one is from the Official CSI handbook).

Hope that helps. Either way, I'd guess he's been there for at least eight years.

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Hmm...that kinda messes with my timeline. Damn. Maybe I could still pull it off...

P.S. Miho icon rocks!

[slynn6776.livejournal.com]

Thanks! radrcks made the icon! :)

If you need him younger, you can always assume he graduated either high school or college early. We all know he's smart enough. ;)

[sbbo.livejournal.com]

For some reason, I seem to think he said he'd been working there for more than five years during an episode. Since I can't corroborate, don't take it as fact.

Somewhere around here, I have a link for episode scripts.

Not that you're going to want to read every single one of these, or anything. (http://anthology.webphilia.com/csi.html)

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Ooh! I had actually just found a site that had some transcripts, but not all. I got about halfway through the first season before my eyes needed a break. This site has a lot more, so much thanks!

[quasilogical.livejournal.com]

I think questions 1 & 2 have been covered, so I'll do what I can with #3. Just fair warning, this might be a minor spoiler (but I'm pretty sure everyone knows about this already)

In the episode Mea Culpa (season 5 episode containing the infamous splitting of the shift), they are reinvestingating a crime which occurred in December of 1999. Warrick remarks that the DA filed charges before he had the chance to give the sample TO GREG. He mentions Greg specifically, not just saying he took the sample to DNA. Thus, Greg not only worked at LV Crime Lab, but he worked the night shift at that time.

Since most episodes take place more or less in real time (that is, an episode airing on say Jan 20, 2001, is supposedly about a crime committed in January, 2001. There are, of course, some exceptions, such as Greg's remarkably fast healing after Playing with Fire). Since CSI came on the air in Fall 2000, Greg must have worked at the lab at least a year before the start of the show. This doesn't tell exactly when Greg started, but it does give an absolute must-be-here-by-this-time deadline.

My personal speculation (which is by no means certain) is that Greg, born in 1975, would have graduated Stanford approximately Spring 1996. He works in San Fran for a year, so that takes us to 1997. Now here is where my idea may meet controversy--I think he worked a year at NY crime lab. If Las Vegas is the number two lab in the country, I don't think they'd hire someone straight off an internship, and I think it's more likely that Greg learned his strange drug knowledge from the CSIs or police in a work related atmosphere than to have ever had a drug habit (again I stress this is my personal opinion, not anything concrete). So he leaves NY in late '98-early '99 to come to LV.

Um...yeah. *is slightly embarrassed by how much I wrote* I hope this made some sort of sense. Even if it didn't you're probably tired of me talking, so I'll go away now.

[pknight.livejournal.com]

Ooh! That's awesome! Mind if I use your theory/speculation with my timeline?

[quasilogical.livejournal.com]

Go ahead! Timelines are tricky, especially since the CSI website, the CSI companion, and the show itself don't always seem to agree. So yeah, if my theory makes sense to you, go with it!

[tyragreenstaff.livejournal.com]

1 is Canon
2 I think is brunette, they mess with his hair so much, and he messes with it too, Someone posted the link to Eric's hair at Angelfire already, so I won't double post it.

3 Don't know for sure, He spent 2 years in SFPD, before transfering to LV, I'd think the 8 year guessitmate was pretty close.

[tyragreenstaff.livejournal.com]

I got the 2 years from the CSI Companion, which several people have had debates about.

[quietdiscerning.livejournal.com]

2) I know his hair's been talked about bunch of times, but if you want to take Eric's natural hair color as Greg's natural, there is an interview of Eric on The Early Show and his hair is medium to dark brown. They talk about it and he states that the current color he had it during the interview was as close as its been to natural in a while.

And just about everything else has been covered. Welcome to the maddness!